Friday, February 6, 2009

An affront to all that is decent

Prescott: Only read this if you want to discuss how wrong they are about every single entry.

http://tv.ign.com/top-100-animated-tv-series/


Kaz: Things wrong with this list:

1. MASK is number 99
2. MASK is before the animated series based off of the terrible Keven Smith movie Clerks
3. The Smurfs are number 98, only one before the animated series of the Clearks
4. Voltron is number 76.  That means 75 OTHER cartoons were rated above the greatest cartoon ever.  Also, that means it is only 12 better than clerks the animated series.
5. Pokemon was rated above voltron and MASK
6. Spiderman and his amazing friends comes before the action packed spiderman adventures from the nineties, which includes Sins of the Fathers part one through twenty four.
7. He-Man is probably the most manly name I can think of.  Why is it only forty points ahead of Clerks the animated seris?
8. teenage mutant ninja turtles didn't even make into the top half
9. Duckman beat Thundercats.
10. Gargoyles is only 53 ahead of Clerks the animated series
11. Schoolhouse rock was even mentioned at all.  I don't know about you, but that was the most infuriating part of my day.
12. Home movies beat space ghost coast to coast
13. Transformers was only ranked 23.  That means that Transformes is only 75 higher than clerks the animated series.
14. Under the Real ghostbusters they make this comment:

Interesting note: The original voice of Venkman was old Rhoda voice actor Lorenzo Music, who was also the voice of Garfield for 12 years. And who did they get to do the voice for Garfield in the movies in order to echo the old Lorenzo Music dry tone? Bill Murray.

Only fagtarded bithces have ever noted that before.  Although, that was the gayest way of saying it - next to Deal and Kaiser.

15. You are gay

Prescott: Also, South Park, Beavis and Butthead and the Maxx made the list and Daria didn't!

Schmidt: Can't argue with the Super Friends right at number 50 - equally protecting both the popular and unpopular cartoons.  

Kaiser: The top 10 isn't a TERRIBLE list
(edit: well, it's pretty bad)

simpsons - duh
batman the animated series - clearly very good
looney tunes - also really pretty good really
south park - 4 seems high, but south park is pretty good
beavis and butthead - also high, but also great
the tick - should probably be a little higher
family guy - should be lower
futurama - should probably be a little higher
flintstones - people love old shit for some reason. WC Fields is NOT FUNNY, grampa!
neon enesis evangelion - This cannot be good. if it's anime, then there's a 95% chance it's the worst thing you've ever f-ing seen. If it's on a douchey top 10 list, then we gnow there's no boobs or tentacle rape. therefore we gnow it's in the lower 95th percentile of anime

Prescott: Just because the Simpson's has been on TV since America's inception, does not make it the best cartoon of all time.  South Park should not be on the top 100 list at all, and in the top 5 is retarded.  We agree that the Flintstones, were never anything really special, and if you remove all the blatantly racist looney tunes, what are you left with?  Also I really used to love those blatantly racist looney tunes.  Beavis and Butthead is top 20 but top 10 is a tad high.  Neon Genesis isn't a bad show but in no way compares to anime like Gundam Wing, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, or Fist of the North Star complete with a bruce lee rip off that can make peoples head explode with punches.


Deal: The Clerks (or, Clearks) movie IS AWFUL, like you say, so you would be surprised to see how good the cartoon is relative to how bad the movie is.  There were only about 5-7 episodes and I haven't seen them in a while, but they're all pretty good and the second episode at least is brilliant.

The first thing to like about the second episode is that it is a Clip Show, where the two main characters pass the time by reminiscing about their many adventures (all of which are taken from the first episode).  It is genuinely funny how they do it.

The second thing to like about the second episode is how it ends. I can't do it justice via email but I still laugh thinking about it.

So, in conclusion, Clerks movie awful, Clerks cartoon good.


Prescott: Deal is right, the clerks cartoon is to the clerks movie what Victor von Doom is to self doubt.

Kaz: Those things are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Kaiser: Yeah too bad you didn't tell Prescott that before he made that analogy

Prescott: I have recently rediscovered that the reason I hate the Fantastic Four is cause I always rooted for Doom.  Quick question, who would win in a chess tournament with the following character's in their seeding order?

1. Amadeus Cho
2. Lex Luthor
3. Reed Richards
4. Victor Von Doom
5. M.O.D.O.K
6. Bruce Banner

Rules, Cho and Luthor get first round byes, and Richards dies after he beats Banner and Hulk Smashes.

In an unrelated question, unrelated except for it still being a comic book question, do you think Forge could build an Iron Man suit?  I think that Tony Stark should be Forge.  Your thoughts?  Also where are we drinking today and where is Schmidt going to lose his phone at tonight?

Kaiser: They would all lose to M.O.D.O.P.C.

Deal: I'm clapping.

Kaz: Is that Mental Organism Only Designed for Playing Chess? 

Deal: There's only one way to answer this chess question, and that way is science.  We'll begin and end by comparing the wikipedia path lengths from chess to 'x' for each subject.

1. Amadeus Cho - Mastermind Excello Hulk (comics) Israel Chess
2. Lex Luthor - Lex Luthor Albert Einstein India Chess
3. Reed Richards - Mister Fantastic Intelligence quotient Chess
4. Victor Von Doom - Doctor Doom Death (personification) Chess
5. M.O.D.O.K - MODOK Anthropomorphism Discworld Chess
6. Bruce Banner - Hulk (comics) Israel Chess

Clearly, Amadeus Cho, Lex Luthor, and M.O.D.O.K. are second tier players at three clicks apiece so we can disregard them.  That leaves Hulk, Dr Richards, and Dr Doom.

If we examine the middle link for each, we see that Hulk has 'Israel', Doom has Death (personification), and Richards has Intelligence Quotient.  These are all impressive, but let's see if we can't narrow it down further.

Hulk's Israel is really just a subset of Dooms Death Personified, so we can disregard Hulk's chess abilities as a subset of Dooms.  This leaves us with Doom vs Richards and Death vs Intelligence respectively.  Considering that chess is a mental competition rather than a mortal competition, I think all educated people can agree that Richards wins this contest....... barely.

Kaiser: This is a great way to decide things. From now on, this is the only logic I listen to.